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TCP-Group Digest            Wed, 26 Oct 94       Volume 94 : Issue  239

Today's Topics:
                          2400 NPRM (2 msgs)
                      ENCAP under Linux (4 msgs)
             FCC files NPRM to sell 2400 MHz Amateur Band
                              Ham Radio
                          IP encap for Linux
                            JNOS on linux
            Packet Radio Drivers For Unix Needed. (3 msgs)
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Date: Tue, 25 Oct 94 18:06 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Bruce Perens)
Subject: 2400 NPRM

I got to the FCC's server, but can't find the NPRM. The proposal would
reallocate 2390 to 2400, 2402 to 2417, which is less than the entire
2400 MHz band, though if this were to go through I fear that the rest
of the band might soon follow those two segments.

    Bruce Perens AB6YM

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Date: Tue, 25 Oct 94 22:17:39 -0400
From: Jim De Arras <[e-mail]>
Subject: 2400 NPRM

Begin forwarded message:

Date: Tue, 25 Oct 94 18:06 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Bruce Perens)
To: [e-mail]
Subject: 2400 NPRM

I got to the FCC's server, but can't find the NPRM. The proposal would
reallocate 2390 to 2400, 2402 to 2417, which is less than the entire
2400 MHz band, though if this were to go through I fear that the rest
of the band might soon follow those two segments.

    Bruce Perens AB6YM



Is this it??

Jim

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Report No. DC-2586         ACTION IN DOCKET CASE
April 20, 1994


         FCC SEEKS COMMENT REGARDING ALLOCATION OF SPECTRUM BELOW

               5 GHZ TRANSFERRED FROM FEDERAL GOVERNMENT USE
                           (ET DOCKET NO. 94-32)

     The Commission is seeking information on potential
applications for 50 megahertz of spectrum that is being
transferred immediately from Federal Government to private
sector use.

     The Omnibus Reconciliation Act of 1993 (Reconciliation
Act), required the Department of Commerce to identify 200
megahertz of spectrum below 5 GHz that can be reallocated from
Federal Government to private sector use within the next 15
years.  The Reconciliation Act also required that 50 megahertz
of the spectrum identified be available for immediate
reallocation to private sector use and that the FCC adopt
regulations to allocate, and propose regulations to assign,
this first 50 megahertz of spectrum by February 10, 1995.  The
spectrum identified for immediate reallocation is at the bands
2390-2400 MHz, 2402-2417 MHz, and 4660-4685 MHz.

     The Commission's goal is to ensure that spectrum
reallocated for private sector use will provide for the
introduction of new services, and the enhancement of existing
services.  These new and enhanced services will create new
jobs, foster economic growth, and improve access to
communications by industry and the American public.  Possible
advances in communications will contribute to the development
of the national information infrastructure which will provide
American industry and consumers access to rapid and flexible
information networks essential to competition and the global
market.

      The Commission is asking for comment as to the services
to which the 50 megahertz of spectrum should be allocated and
on specific rules for use of this spectrum to ensure that it
is used to its maximum potential in meeting the Commission's
goal.  The Commission noted, however, that there are a number
of factors associated with existing allocations of the bands
that will affect their potential for private sector use.


                                  (over)



                                    -2-


     The Commission emphasized that the focus of this Inquiry
is on uses for the three bands available for immediate
reallocation and commenters should limit their consideration
to these bands. The Commission stated that use of the
remaining 150 megahertz of spectrum identified by the
Department of Commerce for delayed reallocation will be
considered at a later date.  However, the Commission
encourages interested parties to participate in the Department
of Commerce's process to make a final identification of
spectrum for reallocation by filing comments with the
Department.

     Action by the Commission April 20, 1994, by Notice of
Inquiry (FCC 94-97).  Chairman Hundt, Commissioners Quello and
Barrett.

                                   -FCC-

     News Media contact: Patricia A. Chew at [phone].
   Office of Engineering and Technology contact: Steve Sharkey
at [phone].

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Date: Tue, 25 Oct 94 08:23 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Bruce Perens)
Subject: ENCAP under Linux

Oh, I saw that he wanted an "ENCAP Ether" device and thought he meant
a pseudo-ethernet driver to encapsulate IP packets in AX.25, not IPIP
(which I thought was called IPTP but that's another issue). Please tell
us about your IPIP encapsulation for Linux, I am going to need to use
tunneling on my system soon.

    Bruce

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Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 10:24:07 +1000
From: [e-mail] (Carl Makin)
Subject: ENCAP under Linux

At 9:15 PM 24/10/94, <[e-mail]> wrote:

> There is no need for an ENCAP Ether device under Linux, as Linux has
> native AX.25 . FTP sunacm.swan.ac.uk and look under /pub/Linux/Radio,

There is a need for an IP and AXIP encap devices for Linux so that Linux
can be used as a gateway.


Carl.

--
Carl Makin (VK1KCM)          "Speaking for myself only!"
[e-mail]      'Work [phone]'      Canberra, Australia
'The best book on programming for the layman is "Alice in Wonderland";
 but that's because it's the best book on anything for the layman.'

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Date: Tue, 25 Oct 94 08:23 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Bruce Perens)
Subject: ENCAP under Linux

Oh, I saw that he wanted an "ENCAP Ether" device and thought he meant
a pseudo-ethernet driver to encapsulate IP packets in AX.25, not IPIP
(which I thought was called IPTP but that's another issue). Please tell
us about your IPIP encapsulation for Linux, I am going to need to use
tunneling on my system soon.

    Bruce

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Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 22:39:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail] (Ron Atkinson)
Subject: ENCAP under Linux

> There is a need for an IP and AXIP encap devices for Linux so that Linux
> can be used as a gateway.

Yup, and as my mailbox was suddenly flooded today by all kinds of request
for the IP encap daemon, I guess I'll just have to upload it now :-)

There is a IPIP daemon for BSD that Bdale messes with (you can get that
at col.hp.com). I ported it over to Linux.  John Paul Morrison (can't
remember the call) also did the same port and both of ours were virtually
identical.  I used his Makefile though since I had mine in BSD format and
used  pmake  to compile it. Now you can just use  make.

Since this really isn't the easiest thing in the world to setup and it took
me a while messing with it on my machine and a couple others on the Internet
to make it function as a gateway with both Internet and amateur addresses
on the same machine at the same time, when I get home tonight I'll get
everything together and include some sample config files that I came up
with and tar/gzip it all together.   I'll probably also just finish the
#ifdef LINUX  in the code anyways since this way we can keep one piece of
code rather than seperate BSD and Linux versions.  Just have different
Makefiles and use the one that you need. After I got everything running
I was just too lazy to finish the rest, but I'll get to it tonight.

Also I have no idea on an AXIP daemon or source.  I thought that that
stuff was originally written on Unix and ported to NOS, but I may be
wrong.  If it exists for Unix (probably BSD) then I'm sure it'll be
easy to port over.

--

Ron N8FOW

AMPRnet  : [e-mail]
Internet : [e-mail]
           [e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 25 Oct 94 16:44 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Bruce Perens)
Subject: FCC files NPRM to sell 2400 MHz Amateur Band

The FCC has filed the Notice of Proposed Rule Making to transfer the 2400
MHz Amateur Band to commercial services. The privilege of using the band
would be sold at auction. Currently I can't FTP to site FCC.GOV, probably
because so many other people are downloading the NPRM.

    Bruce Perens

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Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 22:59:56 -0400
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Ham Radio

request info
[e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 04:14:38 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail] (Ron Atkinson)
Subject: IP encap for Linux

I uploaded the file  ipip.tar.gz  to ftp.ucsd.edu in the
/hamradio/packet/tcpip/incoming  directory.  This is a
derivation of Mike Westerhof's ipip daemon for Unix machines
with code for both BSD  and  Linux machines.  Make sure you
look at the various  README  files first.  There are 2 Makefiles
included,  one for BSD and the other for Linux. There's very
few changes done in the code to make it compile under Linux,
mainly just a few function name changes, but that's transparent
to the person compiling since the Makefile handles what type
of OS you're compiling on.

If I broke the BSD side of things then let me know what to
change,  I can only test it on Linux here.  Also the munge
script that's included that was written by Bdale does
things slightly out of order on me when I run it under Linux.
I usually just manually move a few things around and add in
the first route that it misses from the gateways file.  If
anyone gets it running better then please send it to me.

--

Ron N8FOW

AMPRnet  : [e-mail]
Internet : [e-mail]
           [e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 10:48:58 +0900
From: [e-mail] (HARADA Koichi)
Subject: JNOS on linux

Hi,

I downloaded j109lxA3.tgz, and am trying to compile it.  Everything
goes well except the lack of getattrs.  In what library is this
function included.

My environment:
Linux kernel 1.1.54, ncurses-1.8.1.

Thank you in advance.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Koichi Harada
Hiroshima University
[e-mail]           81(Japan) 824-24-6475 (voice)
                                                       824-24-0756 (FAX)
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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Date: Tue, 25 Oct 94 22:21:39 GMT
From: Pinchook Ronen <[e-mail]>
Subject: Packet Radio Drivers For Unix Needed.

                         Hi All
I'm Looking for radio drivers for Unix , that Will Allow me to operate
packet (by connecting TNC In Hostmode Or KISS To Unix System ...
               Any Help would be  apruciated ....
                          Thank's Forward
                            Regard's
                              Ronen

Ronen Pinchook (4Z4ZQ)
Mail :Internet : [e-mail]
                 [e-mail]

     Packet :    4z4zq@4x4hf

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Date: Tue, 25 Oct 94 15:52 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Bruce Perens)
Subject: Packet Radio Drivers For Unix Needed.

First, to correct my mis-statement of yesterday, Domenico was asking
about IP tunneling, not an AX.25 pseudo-ethernet driver as I thought.
In that context my answer to him was complete nonsense. Ron NF8OW
([e-mail]) mentioned that he has IPIP running in a
daemon on his Linux system. Ron, please give us the details and is the
source available?

Ronen wants AX.25 drivers for Unix. You can run WAMPES (available from
ftp.ucsd.edu) or you can wait for the next Debian Linux release which
will have Alan GW4PTS kernel AX.25 software available in turn-key form.
You didn't mention what version of Unix you are running. Linux runs on
the 386. There is some AX.25 software available for Suns, too, somewhere
on ftp.ucsd.edu .

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    Bruce Perens AB6YM

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Date: Wed, 26 Oct 94 01:27:24 CST
From: [e-mail] (Walter D. DuBose - K5YFW)
Subject: Packet Radio Drivers For Unix Needed.

In message <[e-mail]> Ronen writes:
>                          Hi All
> I'm Looking for radio drivers for Unix , that Will Allow me to operate
> packet (by connecting TNC In Hostmode Or KISS To Unix System ...
>                Any Help would be  apruciated ....
>                           Thank's Forward
>                             Regard's
>                               Ronen
>
> Ronen Pinchook (4Z4ZQ)
> Mail :Internet : [e-mail]
>                  [e-mail]
>
>      Packet :    4z4zq@4x4hf
>

        That would be very interesting for an application I have.  I
        manage a DoD Unix host that is used for local contingency and
        emergency communications including the National Disaster Medical
        System (NDMS).  Making one tty port a TCP/IP connection thru a
        TNC at 19.2 KBPS to a 70 cm transceiver is very attractive and
        would bring much favorable notice to ham radio at the highest
        levels of the DoD and federal govenment.

        Walt/K5YFW

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Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 23:05:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: James Hines <[e-mail]>
Subject: unsubscribe

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Date: Tue, 25 Oct 94 14:48:21 EST
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